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| This is a work from home scam where they will send you fake checks and you are supposed to deduct 10% after you cash them from your bank account and forward the rest via Western Union to the “company”. In these scams, I like to toy with the documents and tax forms to keep these morons busy for a while. I like his reference to “the U.S. Federal Tax Office”, which we all know as the IRS. My emails are in blue, his/hers are in black, my comments in red. Happy reading! |
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My name is Jim Groveau, I would like to know if you would like to work online from home and get paid without affecting your present job. Actually we need a representative who can work for our company as an online book-keeper (You are not required to be a book-keeper). We currently make a lot of supplies to most of our clients all around the world but mostly in the USA/CANADA. It is always too expensive and stressful for me to travel back and forth and receive such payments twice in a month so we had a board meeting to solve the issue of payment acceptance so we decided contact you to work as our company representative.
We are willing to pay you 10% for every payment processed through you from our clients/customers who will pay for their products purchased over our website. These payments are coming from these clients within USA and will be sent to you directly from our customers, all you have to do is lodge and cash each payment, deduct 10% and forward 90% to our Regional Manager via Western Union Money Transfer / Money Gram Money Transfer. The minimum payment processed is between $5,000 upwards, these type of payments are guaranteed to come every week so you will feel secured working knowing your 10% guaranteed fee is assured. JOB DESCRIPTION 1. Receive payment from Clients either by check or Money Order 2. Cash Payments at your Bank 3. Deduct 10% which will be your commission on each payment processed. 4. Forward balance (90%) after deduction of 10% commission to our company. If you are interested in this offer, kindly fill the form below : Full Name : Address : City : State : Country : Zip Code : Phone Number : Age : Current Occupation : Please note that you do not have to be a book keeper to apply for this offer, also you will be required to have a valid checking account at a nominated bank. Kindly get back to me ASAP by filling the form stated above. Regards, Jim Groveau. Phone:+ 44 (0) 7031854711 |
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Hello Jim;
I'm interested in the job offer but I would like more information. I am not familiar with how I would go about filling out my tax paperwork here at home for this position and what is involved with forwarding the funds internationally. If you could send me more information, I would be grateful. Looking forward to hearing from you again, Greg Wilson |
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Dear Greg Wilson,
Once again I will reiterate that I appreciate your offer to become my company representative,You are not require to pay any fee in advance to work with us,my company is responsible for all tax or charges by bank or western union outlet on each transaction ,according to how you have been briefed earlier.You are required to receive payment on behalf of the our company.You are to deduct 10% of all funds processed on a particular order & forward the balance payment via western union to any of the companies' regional warehouses that will be given to you later. The payments would come to you in the amount of $5000 or more and it would come twice a week you are meant to deduct 10% out of each $5000 you get,the funds would be wired back to my company via western union and then you are meant to deduct the western union charges from my balance after you must have deducted your funds i.e your 10%.You are require to setup a checking account with once of the following banks: Wells Fargo Bank Citi Bank You will keep all western union transfer receipts used and forward them to us from time to time, you will also record all transactions on your computer both off line and online in case of any emergency references.Kindly fill below make sure they are currect and still before we can forward it to our various customer in United States. Looking forward to hearing from you. Have a blissful day Jim Groveau |
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Hello again Jim;
What I was asking is about income tax from my government. Anyone in United States who earns money is required to pay taxes on it. Normally, I would fill the tax documentation and turn it in to the hiring company, who deducts the taxes from my gross earnings to pay the IRS. I was inquiring about how this works with an international company, because I'm not real familiar with that. Other than that, it's sounds like a good opportunity. Greg |
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Dear Greg Wilson ,
Thanks for the response.I mention earlier that my company is responsible for the IRS income on our transactions,It is your responsibility to forward the bills to me. It is entirely up to you to us know when you get the bills. So, if you are interested kindly get back to me with the below information: Full Name : Address : City : State : Country : Zip Code : Phone Number : Age : Current Occupation : Also,you are required to setup a checking and saving account with one of the following banks: Wells Fargo Bank Citi Bank Looking forward to hear from you. Regards. Jim Groveau |
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Jim;
Once again, you're misunderstanding what I am asking. I'm required to fill out tax forms for any income received. Who supplies these forms? Do I have to contact the IRS for the forms or do you send them to me. Is their any kind of business contract that I have to sign? Let me know, and thanks alot. Greg Wilson 1347 Kling Street Tallmadge, Ohio 44278 Age - 39 Occupation - Construction worker/carpenter |
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Dear Greg Wilson, You are to get the IRS form and forward to me.Yes,do you have a fax no?i like to fax you a contract to sign and fax back.Mean while your telephone no is missing from the information you provided and more over the checking account you are meant to setup with one of the following banks: Wells Fargo Bank Citi Bank Await your response soonest. Jim. |
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Hello again Jim;
Like I said, I'm really new at this - what tax form is it? Is the W-4, W-2, or the I-9 or the contractor form 1099. Also, I do not have access to a fax machine - I work construction (no office). I do not trust faxing from a copy place like Kinko's or OfficeMax. I can either send it by mail or by email. I use the computer at the library, so I don't even have a computer at home. If this is going to be a problem, I totally understand. Once I read the Employment Contract, I will set up the necessary banking accounts. Thank you very much, Greg Wilson |
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Dear Greg Wilson,
Thanks for the email.You are to send the W-2 form.Attached is the contract,sign and return by email.Kindly setup the account ith Wells fargo on monday and get back to me with details. Have a wonderful weekend. Jim. Dalston Employee Agreement |
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Hello Jim;
I just read the contract and there are some problems with it. One is that it doesn't explicitly explain my duties, and who will be sending me the checks and who I am supposed to send them to. Is this something that will inform me of at a later date? I just don't like being in the dark in this. Another problem is that there are a lot of misspellings in the contract. Why is that? To my understanding, this company is based in England. Am I correct? I do not wish to sign a contract that has that many mistakes in it. I can have a lawyer look it over and correct it here or you will have to correct it on your end. Let me know what you want to do. Thanks alot! Greg Wilson |
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Dear Greg Wilson, Find attached Memorandum of Understanding.You will be notify ahead if a payment is coming your way and where to send it to.You havent provide a telephone no. Regards, Jim Dalston Memorandom of Understanding |
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Hello Jim;
Now I'm confused - what is the Memorandum of Understanding? What happened to the Employment contract and the questions that I asked? Are the corrections that I mentioned going to be made, or should I contact a lawyer to make them, or will you send me an updated contract? In the Memorandum of Understanding, it states that I should maintain proper records and filings for each customer/client. What does that entail? Do have to keep copies of invoices? Do I receive a client listing? One thing I don't really understand that if these companies are going to be sending me checks by mail, why couldn't they just mail them to you and cut out the middleman and the 10% commission that I will be receiving? I'm not complaining, but I would just like to know what I'm getting into before I commit myself to this business arrangement. Please answer the above questions so we can move forward on this opportunity. Thank you, Greg Wilson |
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Dear Greg Wilson, Thanks for the prompt response,when i send you my employment,you requested for something concret and understandable that is was why i had get to a memorandum of understanding from my lawyer.You can take the contact to your lawyer to edit as long as you will understand it that way. Dalton Mill is a small growing textiles store in United Kindon we presently aim at the United State/CANADA.We intend hitting their market's as we presently serve customers only with-in the United Kingdom, due to the fact that we intend expanding our sales profit we decided to appoint several individuals to assist towards this aim. Over here in the United Kingdom, we are not permitted to receive Western Union / Money Gram Payment(s) directly from our customers as this does not guarantee a money-back service rendered by our company. Our merchant's also do not accept foreign credit cards / pay pal transactions directly from our customers due to currency exchange rate, therefore we require a US citizen to receive payment(s) from our customers either via Certified/Cashier's checks or via Domestic Wire Transfer service. Each agent earn 10% as their income from each payment processed.Orders from USA meet required standards of a minimum purchase of $5,000.00 USD therefore rendering our agent to earn a minimum of $500 weekly. Agent are not required to pay any fee in advance to our company as this program is to help assist individuals with several bills and weekly expenses. After 10% has been deducted from a total amount, the remaining 90% can then be forwarded to our company representative via Western Union / Money Gram. Each agent are guaranteed a minimum payment of $500 on a weekly basis. Since we do not accept orders from companies but ONLY individuals, all taxes are paid by Dalston Fabrics & Textiles Limited directly to the United States Federal Tax Office when we receive the W-2 form .The money for sending payment should be deducted from the 90% you are to send once a payment has been made and You will be receiving payment from our custmer in United State/CANADA region,your are to keep record of payment you receive in your bank or by check including all Western Union / Money Gram invoices you sent to us. Hope this meet what you need to know to get started, Thank you and have a blissful day. Regards, Jim Groveau |
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Hi Jim;
Thank you for your response, it answered most of my questions. Let get this straight so I know what I'm doing - do you want me to fill out the Employment Contract and return it, fill out the Memorandum of Understanding, or both? Which one? I'm sorry if it seems like I am making this difficult, but I have never done anything like this before - just trying to be careful. That's why I asked for the contracts. One concern I have is more for you than for me - companies are going to be sending me checks, I am supposed to cash them, deduct 10%, and forward the rest to you, correct? What's to stop me from keeping all of the money and not sending anything to you? Do you have safeguards against this? Don't get me wrong, I would never do this, but you don't know me at all, I could be dishonest. Once again, that's why I insisted on the contracts, to protect myself, but how are you protected from me? It just seems like a strange arrangement seeing that we never met or you did not do a Background Check on me or anything. How long after the contracts are signed will the checks start coming in? I will set up the bank account on Saturday, assuming everything else is taken care of. Unfortunately, I work from 7:00am til about 6:00pm on weekdays, so it's hard to get stuff done on the weekdays. Once again, sorry about all the trouble (but we're almost there), Greg |
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Hello Greg, You dont need to fill or sign any contract and have check your public information and am quite sure you wouldnt be able to use you identity to defraud my company because you can easily get caught and i need from you is your transperency and have the fear of God. If you work from 7:00am till about 6:00pm am sure you will get break like lunch,this job opportunity doesnt take upto 1hr to finish a transaction and it´s not a kind of job you must do everyday.Its like opportunity to earn extra income for your self.Payment might not start immediately because they are yet to receive my order. Kindly let me know when you setup the checking account with wells fargo so that i can forward it to our various client. Have a wonderful day. Jim |
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Jim;
We seem to have a communication problem here - I am assuming that you are English, am I correct? There isn't a language barrier here is there? First you send me an Employment Contract then a Memorandum Of Understanding and now you say I don't need to fill out any contract. Which is it? Let me know, Greg |
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Mr. Greg,
I don't seems to understand what you really need.Firstly,You wanted to be sure of the position you are going to hardly so i prepare the contract my self and it doesnt meetup with what you expect,so i contacted my lawyer for the Memorandum Of understanding to display your role and agreement between us.If you found any clause you dont like i expect you to point it out.You can sign the Memorandum of understanding and return it by email or take it to your lawyer to be satisfied. Good nite. Jim |
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Jim;
The only problem I had with the Employment Contract were the mistakes and spelling errors. The content was fine, I just didn't want to sign a contract that had spelling errors in it. The Memorandum of Understanding was better because it explained my duties and responsibilities a little better, but didn't clarify everything - that's why I had more questions. Either way, I wasn't sure if you wanted them both back or just one of them. I'll look over the Memorandum again and get back with you. Thanks, Greg |
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Ok.will await your response.
Jim |
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Hey Jim;
How are you today? Are we ready to do business together? I looked over the Memorandum of Understanding, and the Employment Contract, and everything that you told me in these emails, and I still have a few concerns that I listed below. 1) Why must I send my banking information to you if I'm cashing checks that are sent to me, and paying you from Western Union? As long as you are getting paid thru Western Union, wouldn't that be good enough? 2) The form I am required to fill out for taxes is the W-4, not W-2 - and there is no such thing as the US Federal Tax Office, where you said you would be paying taxes on my behalf. It is called the Internal Revenue Service. 3) The contracts that you sent me look like they were written by a third grader. Not only did you misspell common English words, you also misspelled the name of your company in the Employment Contract. 4) You say you're English and work for an English company, but have no sense of the English language. Your emails make no sense, nor does the proposal that you sent to me. 5) The website for Dalston has paypal and accepts credit cards from individuals and companies. 6) When I called Dalston, they never heard of you and insisted that they do not do business that way. 7) No company would just pick anyone at random to cash checks worth thousands of dollars and hope that the money is forwarded. "Fear of God" or probably getting caught would not be a good deterrent for dishonest people. 8) Companies could easily mail the checks to England and save on the 10% commission that I would be making. All companies in today’s world bank internationally, and it is not against the law to accept money or wire transfers from overseas companies. If you can appease my concerns on these eight issues, then we are ready to do business. But, I don't think you will be able to do that since you are obviously a dirty, rotten, filthy savage and a thief, and the scourge of society. Did you think that I didn't know a scam when I first read this email? I will admit, that this scam probably works on a few people and that you make money doing it - for that I commend you. But that doesn't change the fact that you are a thief and the lowest form of life on the whole planet. I pity you. I am so sorry you are that way. Talk to you later, Greg |
| Needless to say, I never heard from him again. I like these types of scams because they usually send the checks via FedEx or UPS, therefore spending their own money. This one didn’t quite get that far – I had him change the documents or create new ones as his punishment for stupidity. |
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